I’ve been using Linux for like 18 years and I still hop. I got a better idea of what I like to use for different situations though…but there are so many great builds/derivatives now. I’m pretty well settled into Bazzite and Nobara, or regular Fedora and Fedora Blue, depending on specific needs now though.

I know, I know. I’m just busting your Bibles.

Sacrilege. Op, if you want Bibles in the pour, you can certainly do that. I’d recommend Leviticus.

Its common, it’s called the refractory period. Younger men can sometimes go a couple minutes after a reboot but as you get older it takes longer and longer.

ETA: maybe I should read past the topic…

I’m doing my part.

I set up bazzite in a VM and passed my GPU thru it.

Now I’ve got a nuc clone in my office with bazzite on it as well and it’s just a moonlight client. But it’s silent. Or damn close. The GPU is two floors away, I hear nothing!

That was two separate downloads, too…Nvidia-gnone and gnome-standard.

I was on Nobara a couple months ago and liked it…but a colleague piqued my interest on immutable distros and now here I am.

Back to the Future 2.

Kids think whatever they’re exposed to.

Neither of my kids use their tablets anymore after having/getting access to a laptop. They were a little confused, at first, since the town uses touchscreen Chromebooks for K-1, but they got used to it, since none of my laptops have a touchscreen. Now they view touchscreens as being for babies. Like that kid in BTTF2 with the lightgun…“You mean you have to use your hands?”

My point is, you seem to think that the new way is better, with everything touchscreen. Just because it’s new doesn’t mean it’s better. People thought Teflon and cartridge razors were better too. Turns out they were just brainwashed.

Newer absolutely does not mean better.

This is why we are seeing a return to old household items. People are realizing that Teflon and cartridge razors and Tupperware aren’t really as great as we thought they were. We just grew up familiar with them because that’s what everyone used, so they must be better, right?

This is all because boomers and the “greatest generation” were really easy to market to when TVs came into homes. People weren’t ready for that level of advertisement.

I don’t think we’ll see a return to punch cards, but I don’t see keyboard/mouse ever going away.

Heheh that was my oldest a couple years ago. He’s 9 now but I let him use one of my laptops when he was like 7 to play Minecraft, and it eventually became “his” laptop.

He’s also using Tumbleweed.

He learned how to do all sorts of Minecraft console commands mostly “on his own” (as in, without my guidance, he saw some of the stuff streamers were doing and I explained what it was printed out a little cheat sheet for him and set him off on his own to mess with it. I haven’t taught him any Linux shell (yet), but he is getting pretty good at typing and keyboard shortcuts.

I don’t much care for the streamers. Especially a lot of the Minecraft streamers that pander to kids (cough Mikey and JJ). I don’t allow them in the house anymore. But I’m glad he got some inspiration out of it at least.

Care to name the comic? My kid likes going onto scratch and checking out other people’s stuff, and made a few little animations himself…but the whole thing is a bit overwhelming at first.

Yeah it’s been a long road for me to be fully Linux on my personal systems. I think I started messing with Linux circa 1997 and didn’t switch over fully until I think Windows 7 went EoL.

Even thicker laptops…I have an HP Envy (that I hate and I want another Lenovo 14")…wifi card is bios locked. I can only replace with another Intel AC card.

Oh for sure, but at least Alexa’s rankings were rather transparent and somewhat trusted built up on a reputation.

I hadn’t even realized Amazon bought and discontinued the service, but that’s clearly exactly the type of instance that needs to be guarded against. I’m sure that a big part of why Amazon wanted that Alexa gone was because it would show rising competition, and Jeff can’t have that.

But that just tells you all the people that have visited the site and downloaded a script.

I find it hard to believe that OpenMandriva is the most popular distro. I distrohop quite a bit and never even came across it (currently using Nobora on my PC, KDE Neon in the living room, tumbleweed on the kids laptops (though I may move them to silverblue or another immutable), and Pop on my laptop. It takes me a minute when I sit at any console to remember which package manager is the right one)

If you want honest results of actual use on general-purpose PCs…I’d wish for something like Alexa Page Rankings that could get deep enough to know Distro, but that’s not possible (I don’t think, without every distro having its own User Agent signature in the browsers), and Amazon bought Alexa and discontinued those services

Yeah I got a USB wifi dongle that’s a bit tricky. It doesn’t work out of the box in most distros but there is drivers for it that do work, fairly well.

Anybody ever get Winmodems to work or did they all give up on it?

Back in the day, it was hard enough getting dialup internet working on Linux (especially before you had internet in your pocket, so you had to print out HowTos or write down a bunch of notes before you tried to do it).

But it was downright impossible with a class of modems that was designed essentially as a softmodem, heavily reliant on closed-source firmware and drivers, making them practically impossible to work on Linux.

I’m doing my part.

I’m pretty sure my steam is installed via flatpak.

Is this only new installs?

I saw earlier you mentioned it’s an Optiplex, so I’m assuming this is an onboard NIC.

I’ve never had an onboard NIC not work out-of-the-box in Linux. Wifi, sure, but usually just certain chipsets with proprietary/closed firmware. Dell usually uses Intel NICs and they’re usually pretty solid and well supported.

Check to make sure that the NIC is enabled in BIOS.

If you have/had Windows on this PC, did it work there?

Does the NIC show in lspci or ip a ?

Try an external USB NIC. Or an internal PCIe one if you’re comfortable with that.