Social contract not a moral imperative.
Or seen as a repeated prisoners dilemma, play tit-for-tat, or maybe (N*tit)-for-tat (where N gives a ‘punitive’ damages expectation for breching the accepted norms).
Quite a lot of lefties don’t like thinking about what is “rational” though because “people aren’t cognitively rational” so rationality based social equilibia can obviously never have any relevance.
Vital feature.
Just in case your game fogot to put in a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_key
One of them will, and the others will ape it.
Repeat this process enough times and more and more of them will get a bit better.
It’s sort of like education; except the students are a bit better motivated.
Objectives of learning and fun?
You do not state noobliness, ease of setup or time to install, number of failures/retries or anything like that.
**EDIT: you did state noobliness later on in comments so . . . i’d go stock debian +lxqt. ****
or all that I’d recommend arch. Do not use archinstall script , that reduces both learning and fun. Resource? follow the archwiki and go through lots of linked pages at each step. If you do wuss out and install stock debian (+lxqt)
maybe partition off a spare 10-20GB so you can play around with an arch install after you realise how boring and uneducational the others are (joke)
I imagine patient records wouldn’t be encrypted either
If computerised, they freaking well should be.
In general they’d be in a database with it’s own accesss control to interfaces and the databases data store should be encrypted. In my country there are standards for all healthcare IT systems that would include encryption and secure message exchange between systems. If they breached those they’d be in trouble.
If your doctor has a paper file in a filing cabinet on premises, written in English, then yes. The security is only the physical locks, just like your hme pc.
Yes, my sister bought a laptop it had windows and bitlocker installed.
She doesn’t know what any of those things are nor does she have an encryption key.
So she was not able to resize her partition to try to dual boot linux - she’d have to totally kill windows (which I suggested, of course, but you know. . . ).
It stops her doing what she wants because she was given something she doesn’t understand by people who didn’t explain it. At least she is “safe” though according to someone else’s definition. I guess coud’ve just said “Basically, microsoft” for short.
bookable Mint Cinamon USB stick
Does book still mean cool?
Mindset / traits
-Experimental mindset - why not try it out. (Doesn’t look for reasons not to try it out).
-Likes computers/ maths intrinsically (a bit), rather than just uses them.
-Ruined some toys / electronics / appliances in their house because “If it ain’t broke, fix it until it is”. or just, " Well it has screws, so it’s obviously supposed to come apart".
-Prepared to accept that free or cheaper stuff might be adequate. (price is not necessarily a signal of quality)
-Less afflicted by sunk cost - “I already kow how to use windows, or at leady i would if they didnt keep changing stuff”.
-They think Excel is shit for anything but a few basic small tables and know they should be using a proper database and/or code rather than insane fornulae and the odd bit or garbled vba vs the "I am a master of excel, and i love it because , look, i can coerce it to do all this cool stuff , excel can do EVERYTHING if you’re as good at it as me. Nobody needs anything else to do anything. "
-Seen enough BSOD that they’ve got nothing left to lose.
As for change: Number 1 is India by miles, so keep India growing I guess. So outwith India . . .
I don’t know how many of these are intrinsic vs malleable. I don’t think linux desktop (as per current mainstream linux distros) will ever be very widespread. Unless it is packaged into something very sanitised like chrome os, android, steam deck os. or like macos did with BSD.
Create a few enthusiasts maybe by give kids more toys like cheap knock-off lego, and real tools, less pokemon apps. Raspberry pi might be a gateway drug - shame its moved up the price scale. piZeroW2 is still pretty cheap and runs a more or less usable debian/LXDE - for basic stuff. Better to be using GPIO to do fun stuff with motors, gears, pulleys, sensors, solenoids even just blinkys.
Per the last two, that’s mostly up to MS to help. You can get some milage taking someones excel that theyre proud of, cut the calculation time in half within excel (to prove you know what you’re talking about), then tell them excel is shit, this still too slow/inefficient/unmaintainable/unscaleable , there are better ways. PSA - A lot of people will react badly to that method, so learn a few basic self defense blocks first or do that stuff over videoconference. I think this needs to be developed into a more sensitive implementation of the D.E.N.N.I.S system. Maybe that is what bill gates already did to 1 million corporate procurement teams?
Scarred by abuse, but resolved to escape instead of developing Stockholm syndrome.
I’d go basic debian . Install flatpak and flathub to get any packages that are too far out of date or might get so. Any derivative or ubuntu derivative just sees like unnecessary extra dependencies to me.
Debian gives i think a wider choice of desktop environment than any of the derivatives on install, but I think they’re all much of a muchness really. Most of the DEs have the “Click something, window opens” feature.
I always think of Kiwi / Ozzie slang when I type chroot.
Of course that’s after consulting the ArchKiwi to remember how to mount it
oh oh, I’m a below average arch user. I suspect i copied most of my hoome from debian or something.
I’ll rename it to Dickuments as a security feature.
That’s a problem and I remember talking about it in the 2000s when everything started to become user friendlieness. plug and play, just works and so-on, worst part is stuff being locked down and harder to jailbreak.
It’ll be fine though, I’m sure AI will install their OS for them, I won’t have a clue how it did it, but it’ll probably be better than I could do.
You’ll just add “without backdoors” to the prompt and it’ll be secure too.
I agree, there’s a lot of people in this thread who seem to know exactly what is good or bad for a new user. But I don’t see many being sensitive to what the user might actually want to achieve. New users are not a homogeneous group.
If the user wants to both use (stably) and learn (break stuff) simultaneously, I’d suggest that they start on debian but have a second disk for a dual boot / experimentation. I don’t really use qemu much but maybe that’s a good alternative these days. But within that I’d say set them self the challenge of getting a working arch install from scrath - following the wiki. Not from the script or endeavourOS - I think those are for 4th/5th install arch users.
I find it hard to believe that I’d have learned as much if ubuntu was available when I started. But I did dual boot various things with DOS / windows for years - which gave something stable, plus more of a sandbox.
I think the only universal recommedation for. any user, any distro, is “figure ourt a decent backup policy, then try to stick to it”. If that means buy a cheap used backup pc, or raspberry pi and set it up for any tasks you depend on, then do that. and I’d probably pick debian on that system.
Not really, it generally worked in the end - so in fact it’s pretty great actually at getting you out of a hole.
It was just a load of extra steps - and usually a last resort after failing with whatever came on the installation disks. So morale had taken a few hits before you even started with it.
Everything is easier when you can connect to the network immediately.
Fair play to ubuntu (and i guess kernel improvements in early 2ks) - that was such a major step in ease of installation.
Bring back the good old days of ndiswrapper.
It depends what packages you need, and what they have to interact with.
If it’s all standalone then no problem until the hardware degrades.
For example I had laptop (DOS/Win98 ) with a pcmcia network adapter with BNC 50 ohm coax network dongle, 9/25 pin serial/parallell ports, maybe p/s2 port, floppy drive and so on.
I can’t think what I’d connect that to I might have a parallell port on my PC, but on that laptop I think I only had laplink so I’d need a linux app to interact with that. I do still hve a floppy drive somewhere, but how to connect that to my motherboard?
So I’d probably be limited to keyboard and trackball input, and audio + (monochrome) video output.
lemmings on black and white, blurry, slow refresh rate would still “work” unless the hdd got corrupted.
Within a lifetime current gen wifi, usb, ethernet etc may all be as rare as 9 pin serial is today - it’s still around of course, but you cant rely on it.
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+1. and yes use the wiki not the install script.
I think theres value to anyone with a genuine interest if they just have a go at an archinstall - I think they can setup most things of interest in a Qemu(vm), or a spare partition, or even a usb or something. Theres nothing to lose but time. I’d recommend the user knows enough about their disk setup and their incumbent boot manager so as not to screw up their main os. Though i’m very tempted to say that’s a rite of passage.
Of course everyone already has a regular backup(s) which contains some sort of list or script for all the software, configs and tweaks they normally do. If not - well another rite of passage.
I don’t see it as a paradox, but as rational. But there are people who I think do hold tolerance as some sort of moral compulsion, and get offended by the notion that it might just emerge from people figuring out how and why to cooperate, without any high and mighty guiding morality.
These people will also object to using rational models to understand/describe human behaviours, because they can point to many examples of people acting irrationally. Many of these examples are psychology lab “experiments” so are irrelevant to the real world. But plenty of real examples of things like loss aversion and risk (mis)percepion, sunk costs, time-inconsistent decisions and so on where individuals clearly do behave “irrationally”.
I often come across people who believe that this undermines anything any “rational model” has to say. And so I do try to use such reasoning with those people, or even challenge those observations with examples where collective rationality does seem to emerge as a social (not individual) phenomenon, then I’ll be derided as some sort of neo-conservative capitalist fascist or whatever.
So I find that it’s generally good practice to chuck in some insult about one type of political zealot or other every so often, so as to quickly establish where I stand. I’d rather be vague than waste my breath with zealots.