Framework announced the Framework 13 Pro including full Linux support right from the beginning.

Some quick information about the Device:

  • will use Intel Core Ultra 300 (Panther-Lake)
  • updated Battery Design with (up to) 20h Battery life
  • custom designed Display Panel with Touch support (keeping the 3:2 aspect ratio)
  • LPCAMM2 for upgradable/replacable RAM without compromising on Speed/Low Power of LPDDR5X
  • milled Aluminium Unibody chassis
  • Full Linux support right from the start (including Firmware update via LVFS, Fingerprint Reader, etc.)
  • Haptic Touchpad
  • and all the repairability features Framework is known for

You can watch their YouTube Video for a quick summary:

I was looking for a new laptop to replace my old Lenovo Yoga 370 and initially disregarded the Framework 13 because of some downsides (low Battery Life, bad Camera, etc.) and was looking to go with one of the following devices:

  • HP Elitebook X g1a
  • the new Dell XPS 14
  • Asus Expertbook PM5 G2

or also a MacBook pro. I am using Linux since more then 10 years and never touched MacOS at all. So I was not sure if MacOS would work for me. But this announcement made it easy: It will be a Framework 13 Pro with Intel X7 358H!

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    17 hours ago

    I love my original Framework running Fedora, but in order to compete with MacOS, Windows and Linux need to figure out standby battery usage without hard shutting down after each use. Otherwise, the size of the battery is not pointless, but pretty close.

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      13 hours ago

      I recently installed Mint on my laptop and I have this problem, too. Windows 11 sucks, but I could just close the laptop and not worry about it and still have battery for a long time.

      Now I assume it’ll last with the lid closed maybe a day or two at max, and even then I’m plugging it in the moment I open it back up.

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      17 hours ago

      This, so much this. I also run Fedora.

      I can’t just close the lid and put it in my bag without worrying.

      Honestly, most times of I’m not actively working on something, I just shut it off completely before packing it away. It starts plenty fast, and at least I know I’ll actually have battery when I need it. Instead of finding it dead or at 10%. So annoying.

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        16 hours ago

        Tbh even if they figure it out (and they should, not everyone is me) I probably won’t use it often, I like the extra layer of security having to type my LUKS pass to unlock the FDE then my User pass, just in case. Plus as you noted it starts plenty fast already at under 30sec, it’s not a 5min boot like windows on my old laptop.

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        15 hours ago

        Same, also on Fedora. I deal with it by using hibernate (which is sweet until a kernel update borks it)

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          14 hours ago

          I looked into it, but I didn’t want to mess with rpmostree anymore than I need to, since I’m on bluefin. I’m really digging the forced stability.

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          14 hours ago

          I recently learned that the option to hibernate goes away when Fedora is booted with SecureBoot. It was surprising to me, and might be good to know for you, that’s why I’m mentioning it.