Yeah well, it wasn’t intended to be all positive.

I migrated all my stuff (small business) to mxroute because I couldn’t justify the cost for fasmtail.

It’s the server that matters, not the domain.

If you do this it’s good to use something like mxroute as an SMTP server so deliverability is their problem.

Can I ask what client you prefer?

I dislike thunderbird and roundcube.

I was with fastmail for more than a decade.

They’re the best platform.

Their spam protection is so-so. Not as good as Gmail but better than some others.

Their pricing is egregiously expensive.

Their tech support is painfully slow for anything above chatGPT level.

Click the column header to select the column, then click and drag the selected cells to wherever you want.

Note that dragging cells in this way is the same as copy & paste, so it will not insert the column at your destination and move the existing columns along, it will leave a gap where you dragged it from and overwrite the column wherever you leave it.

Hah! Me too, exactly this.

Yeah what the fuck is with that.

It’s a very twitter centric view of the web. If you’re not on xitter you’re “shutting out a significant portion”.

The thing is, it’s not simply that Musk has an ideology that is disparate from my own, he has an agenda that is egregiously contrary to the stated values of the Debian project.

You’d consult with the community over a new logo or blog layout maybe, but on whether to assist Musk in his far right agenda there’s not really any decision to be made honestly.

Oh but look at this deleted draft PR release that was committed that doesn’t really say anything spicy and was later sharpened up to reflect the intentions of the author.

I think the title is intended to lead to partisan turf wars.

I don’t necessarily agree with the beginner vs expert thing.

I’ve been using linux for many years but I certainly don’t have any magical expert knowledge or intuition. When I have driver trouble I google it and copy whatever commands seem sensible.

It’s probably better to say that some distros are more configurable from the desktop than others. As in, if you’re going to get grumpy about using the command line then mint or ubu might be your best choices.

That said, in my experience linux GUIs rarely expose all of the underlying features of whatever service they’re interacting with. (For example, gnomes disk management GUI).

Yeah this is me.

I was reading these comments feeling as though I must be very odd until I got to yours.

Debian comes with firefox ESR which I think is a good choice because it “just works”, but it’s also no one’s “preferred” browser. I tend to use both LibreWolf and ungoogled-chromium all day every day.

I do use the terminal every day. Years ago I used oh-my-zsh for a while but I think eventually I just kind of didn’t bother to install it.

For file manager and video player et cetera, I’ve always found the defaults to be good choices.

The flag looks a bit like a disgruntled goose.

I’ve never been able to get this to work in a stock debain 12 / gnome environment.

My opinion doesn’t mean much since it’s been forever since I tried any other distro but I’m surprised Debian isn’t on the beginners list.

it might be a bit too involved for an absolute beginner to configure to perfection

I’m not really sure what this means? It might be more accurate to say it’s not the best distro if you’d like to tinker with your desktop experience.

Notably, nothing on the beginners list ought to be run as a headless server, but debian is perfect for that job. The reason I’ve become so enamoured with debian over the years is that I can use it on my desktop and on servers and it’s the same system - everything is exactly where I’m used to it being.

Thunderbird is fine.

Maybe I have too much grey in my beard - I don’t care how modern it looks.

refuse.

That’s just not practically possible.

OP said they’re running a small business. It’s great that they want to fly the flag for FOSS, but they’re not in the business of promoting and advocating for FOSS. They still need to do the things they need to do.

Refusing to file your taxes on the grounds that the software provided is not open source is a great way to no longer be in business.

I use a mail client… but it’s beyond me why I’d want that to be part of my web browser.

Everyone needs to make their own choices about this but IMO it’s fine.

Pretty much everyone saves recovery codes in their password manager anyway, which is the same thing.

This seems as good a place as any to point out that I just perpetually have problems with flatpaks and snaps. Appimages less so but I wish they were better integrated.

Yes I understand why devs like these new packages. Yes I think that in the future they will be great. Yes they probably work fine for everyone else. I personally dislike them.

There’s nothing that makes it good for mint specifically.

Ubuntu is debian with corporate bs.