And so have countless closed-source developers/companies/applications. A vulnerability existing does not change the fact that FOSS projects should be funded more.

My understanding is the stability risks come from active development additions vs “fixes” during that stage of the development cycle.

https://linuxiac.com/torvalds-expresses-regret-over-merging-bcachefs-into-kernel/

Simply put, only small bug fixes are allowed after the post-merge phase to integrate changes into the current kernel cycle. However, Overstreet’s PR included more than just fixes; it continued to develop new features, which always carry risks. That’s why Torvalds was unhappy with it. As a result, the changes were rejected.

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Currently, the file system is being actively developed. Although it shows great potential with impressive features and strong data reliability, it’s not yet stable enough to be adopted by major Linux distributions as a proven and reliable solution.

YMMV, but my production systems will stick with ZFS since it’s kernel release updates are clear when there are “upgrades” vs “updates”, as you do those manually when it alerts you.

“Stable” in this context doesnt mean “your PC will definately crash and you will lose data!”, bcachefs is well past that. It means that the development is too active to be considered production ready since the code changes are too large to confirm the scary bit won’t happen (as much as can be).

Even JC threw in the towel on bcachefs-tools due to this: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-Orphans-Bcachefs-Tools

In this situation it works well, IMO. For some more context, ZFS was created by Sun (FOSS). Oacle bought them and built Oracle ZFS out of it. OpenZFS forked at that point from Sun code, and that’s what we use in Linux/etc. The Oracle variant supplies support to the FOSS variant. So Oracle has no control over OpenZFS.

Fair enough on “major”. Edited that. But it has stability issues that aren’t handled well enough for RCs, so it’s not a hit piece to state that fact. Those stability issues may come from it being new, but it’s still an issue. Saying it’s because they want to “get rid of Kent” is just as much of a hit piece, too.

Everyone always says “Companies should fund FOSS instead of spending money on big corpos!”, yet then this.

It’s FOSS. It’s auditable. Funding is a good thing.

Weechat.

Or if you’re feeling nastalgic, BitchX.

Or if you want to be more modern, Matrix with the mautrix-signal bridge and Element as a client. This is what I do so I can combine all my chat apps into one.

No, comment is not true. You can use ZFS or BTFS, both of which are open source. ZFS just happens to be historically funded by Oracle, which is a good thing.

The reason is bcachefs has major stability problems (that don’t allow it to meet kernel release schedules). https://hackaday.com/2025/06/10/the-ongoing-bcachefs-filesystem-stability-controversy/

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This is one of those times I’m glad I use a dotfiles repo

Debian is basically Ubuntu without Snap.

You can switch. Just sayin.

Yea, running from repo there are updates, but yea, sad it has stagnated for releases. It’s why I’m starting to look at Lawnchair again.

They were acquired by Branch Analytics, and right after the APK went up in size by 150% with no visible changes.

It then asks for location and accessibility (to see notifications) permissions.

They then got rid of most of the staff, leaving a sole developer.

No one knows what it sends back home (at least not the last time I read about it, which was years ago).

I stopped using it years ago when it got bought and immediately injected with spyware. Neo Launcher or Lawnchair are very similar to Nova. Lawnchair gets more active development, but I use Neo because it’s nearly the same as Nova.

For the record, WinApps makes menu shortcuts/etc.

Hey, I made that. Fun 😆

I agree it’s great, but woah.

Nothing says Linux is easier than you think than 23 screens of a guide 😆

Honestly, I’ve had access to tons of Nvidia cards (1050, 1060, 1080, 3070, etc). All of them worked great for gaming whenever I tried in Debian or Ubuntu, using whatever drivers were latest at the time.

The ONLY place I had issue was specific settings (HDR + 120hz over HDMI) in Bazzite. I wanted a new card back then anyway so I got an AMD. But I’ve heard their Nvidia image is great, now.

“Immutable”: A term to describe Linux operating systems that do not follow the traditional filesystem layout where every single file can be removed by the user with root privileges. It is more nuanced than this in the case of Bazzite, but is still considered “immutable” from the point of view of the extended Linux community. The Bazzite team would not describe Bazzite as an “immutable” operating system.

https://docs.bazzite.gg/General/terms/

I’m a big fan of Bazzite, but as stated in the docs, “immutable” is a term the community uses to describe it.

Education is the key to reducing confusion, not pretending a system architecture doesn’t exist or matter.

Pretend your running a live OS off a read-only USB, yet any changes (app installs, config changes, etc) you make are saved to the HD. A new version of the OS comes out, so you write a new ISO to your USB, and upon booting it, all you changes are applied on top.

This is a simplistic view of immutable distros, but thwy wrk more like snapshots. It allows for rollback. So you install v1, then v2 is a newer snapshot of the base OS, v3 is another, always building.

The catch is they often require apps to run under things like flatpak so you don’t have to alter the OS packages. Personally, I’m not a fan for a daily driver, but it’s great for distros like Bazzite.

Wut? You’re responding to a trend graph for Fedora’s immutable (Atomic) forks.

Built on Fedora’s rpm-ostree system, Bazzite uses an immutable design with atomic updates and rollback functionality.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazzite_(operating_system)

But yes, since the trend chart is showing immutable distros and how Bazzite is growing, I am saying the fact that Bazzite is immutable has nothing to do with it’s growth.

Edit: Reading again, I realize you might not know that Fedora Atomic is the immutable base. 😉

But “being immutable” is not why Bazzite is growing.