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  • Correct, and again, I’m someone who uses AI, I’m not one of the ones who are purely against it. The definition what what I’ve both done and seen:

    • Using LLMs to code - fine. It’s a tool, use it as you’re saying. This is not what I’m talking about.
    • Using LLMs to vomit out all of your code into one commit is vibecoding. It’s clearly vibecoding when there weren’t even multiple commits. No trial and error, no refinement, just one giant dump.

    I do care how it’s coded because it shows how well it will be maintained into the future. If someone uses LLMs over months to build something it will probably be maintained. If someone vomited out all of that code in one vibecoded session, it’s very likely they’ll be bored and in a month it’ll be abandoned. That’s what I’m looking at, because tests can be automated now.

    Maybe I’ll be wrong and in a month they’ll have committed hundreds of times and are trying to mature it. I have no evidence of that though, so there is no reason I’d risk trying it out.


  • Making your own and creating it is great. Maintaining it for years its great. Its why there is so much respect for other projects. You can see the months and years of dedication right in the git history.

    Vibe coding something and trying to be on par with the other projects is hubris. It’s assuming you can do a better job than the groups and maintainers with an AI tool. Then to make it worse, it will probably never be updated or maintained. That’s why I and I assume others dislike it. It’s minimal effort with the arrogance on top.

    Like I said. I enjoy vibe coding things. I’ve done a few. However I don’t go and pitch them as alternatives to well known OSS projects, because I know my vibe coding could never compare.








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    7 months ago

    Fully agree. I think Slop is getting polluted (especially here on Lemmy) to anything that even remotely touches AI. We’ve had AI for decades. We’ve had LLMs now for a while. Slop is something relatively new. For me, Slop is low-quality bullshit that is thrown out into the void for clicks and likes, a cheap alternative when a better solution exists.

    I recently was given an excel document I had to convert, with about 50 columns on it. I had to build a regular import. Now, I could spend a few hours typing that in manually as a C# class, or a few hours coding up some script to scrape the headers into the type, or I could utilize a tool that I have that will spit it out for me into a class. I don’t consider this slop, I consider this the grain of truth that all the tech bros fixate their grand embellishments around. AI does have usages. It’s not nearly what they think it is, but it is there.


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    Personally, I don’t care. It’s a tool. It’s the same as when drag and drop GUI editors came around. Some people think it’s the worst thing ever created and others see it as a tool that removes boilerplate. I think using it in a project or as a maintainer is a personal decision.

    What is interesting is how we praise open source maintainers for building (let’s remember) free software for us to use, but then the community is extremely quick to demonize them. It’s very easy to criticize, but I don’t see anyone stepping up to fix the list of issues themselves by hand either, to fork it and become the sole maintainer moving forward.

    Maintaining open source is a thankless job, and they do it for free. They do not owe anyone anything, and their morals are their own. What was probably a side project years ago is now an entire operation, what was fun is probably now work, and yeah, if I was faced with the same dilemmas, I’d probably be looking for tools to relieve some stress too.