• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    You do realize LLMs are made outside the US as well. I have zero problem with Chinese companies making LLMs that are released in the open and you can even run on your own hardware.

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      2 days ago

      Shitty corporations are a nigh universal constant, not something exclusive to America. That’s American exceptionalism talking.

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        2 days ago

        The difference is that China actually deals with corporations when they act shitty as happened with Alibaba and Jack Ma because China has a dictatorship of the proletariat which creates different material conditions from the dictatorship of capital you have in burgerland. No exceptionalism needed to explain this, just minimal capacity for critical thought that some people lack.

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          22 hours ago

          True, but I am afraid that the definition of “they act shitty” in China is very different from the one in the US.
          Jack Ma paid because he criticized the regime, not because Alibaba was failing.

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            19 hours ago

            Jack Ma paid because he tried to expand Alibaba into a finance and do what western tech bros do. I love how you call Chinese government ‘the regime’ really highlights the quality of your ‘intellect’.

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              18 hours ago

              " to expand Alibaba into a finance" is not intrinsically a crime in a free country, so if China is really a free country, why Jack Ma was paid for something he don’t yet did ?

              Jack Ma was punished because he had the courage (or stupidity given the situation) to criticize Chinese estabilishment for stifling innovation and economics, then Xi Jinping retaliate and Jack Ma went off the radar (only to be remerges after Xi Jinping “rehabilitated” him)

              So yes, to me China is a regime. And if you think my intellect is not up to your idea of quality, you are free to move to China and to live in what I suppose you consider a better country.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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                18 hours ago

                " to expand Alibaba into a finance" is not intrinsically a crime in a country which allows pedo oligarchs to own everything and rule over the working class

                Jack Ma was punished because he wanted capitalists to start having control over the economy. Calling that courage reveals what you stand for.

                Enjoy living under pedo oligarch regime that fits with your fascist ideology. Your conception of freedom is literal fascism.

                • gian @lemmy.grys.it
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                  " to expand Alibaba into a finance" is not intrinsically a crime in a country which allows pedo oligarchs to own everything and rule over the working class

                  It is not a crime in any free country. It is not that the US is the world, you have a very narrow view of the world

                  Jack Ma was punished because he wanted capitalists to start having control over the economy. Calling that courage reveals what you stand for.

                  Oh yes, think what you like but the facts are that Jack Ma was punished after criticizing the Chinese govern for stiffling innovation.
                  Like everyone that has too much power (or is too much succesfull) in the country and became a risk for Xi Jinping.

                  Enjoy living under pedo oligarch regime that fits with your fascist ideology. Your conception of freedom is literal fascism.

                  Funny, I live in a country that experienced real fascism and to think, like you, that fascism is a real thing now make me smile.
                  You people who call fascist anyone who don’t think like you would were the first to be “removed” in a real fascist regime.

                  But hey, feel free to call fascist everyone and think that capitalism is the problem, while using something that was created in a capitalist society, by capitalist people working for capitalist company…

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          as happened with Alibaba and Jack

          I’m out of the loop, what happened to them? Never mind, googled it. I like how they regulate things.