I think Matrix sucks honestly. Issues with encryption making messages unreadable, outdated clients that all have or lack different features, extremely slow development, not prioritizing features that would pull users from apps like Discord and make it a more attractive platform for the average person.
Encryption is cool and good and necessary, but Matrix will never be mainstream and even something relatively new like Fluxer, which is an unencrypted and open source Discord clone, is going to be more popular once it gets out of beta if it isn’t already. Strictly due to usability.
They serve different purposes because Matrix is built more for communities and Signal for instant messaging. But if you’re deciding between any sort of encrypted messaging app, I strongly prefer DeltaChat, which is basically a WhatsApp clone in the way it looks and functions. It is not good for large communities because it doesn’t have “servers” and “channels” and all users have the same authority. Meaning anyone can invite and kick anyone else from any chat. But it beats Signal since you don’t need to give it any personal information.
I love my #DeltaChat , and yes, DeltaChat has groups and channels that exist only on the phones of their members. The only drawback might be that, since the channels and groups are only on the phones (and not on a server), new members can’t see posts made previously, and everything that was posted before is blank for them.
@jksalcedo Delta Chat is for privat communication and has E2EE… so reading old posts for new members of a group does not work because of missing keys -
It has nothing to do with the fact that posts are stored on Relayservers just for a period of time… otherwise this period could be extended for groups easily…
Right now there are no public groups possible with Delta Chat… They may be in the future… dev working on “super groups”
I think Matrix sucks honestly. Issues with encryption making messages unreadable, outdated clients that all have or lack different features, extremely slow development, not prioritizing features that would pull users from apps like Discord and make it a more attractive platform for the average person.
Encryption is cool and good and necessary, but Matrix will never be mainstream and even something relatively new like Fluxer, which is an unencrypted and open source Discord clone, is going to be more popular once it gets out of beta if it isn’t already. Strictly due to usability.
They serve different purposes because Matrix is built more for communities and Signal for instant messaging. But if you’re deciding between any sort of encrypted messaging app, I strongly prefer DeltaChat, which is basically a WhatsApp clone in the way it looks and functions. It is not good for large communities because it doesn’t have “servers” and “channels” and all users have the same authority. Meaning anyone can invite and kick anyone else from any chat. But it beats Signal since you don’t need to give it any personal information.
I’m running my own matrix server and it was at least 1+ year ago since I experienced any encryption issues. Most of the encryption issues are fixed
@Inui @jksalcedo
I love my #DeltaChat , and yes, DeltaChat has groups and channels that exist only on the phones of their members. The only drawback might be that, since the channels and groups are only on the phones (and not on a server), new members can’t see posts made previously, and everything that was posted before is blank for them.
That’s a drawback for me.
@jksalcedo Delta Chat is for privat communication and has E2EE… so reading old posts for new members of a group does not work because of missing keys -
It has nothing to do with the fact that posts are stored on Relayservers just for a period of time… otherwise this period could be extended for groups easily…
Right now there are no public groups possible with Delta Chat… They may be in the future… dev working on “super groups”
#[1](https://support.delta.chat/t/spec-proposal-super-groups/4644)
@anon_4601 @Inui [comrade/them]
https://support.delta.chat/t/spec-proposal-super-groups/4644 ↩︎